Changes to the Dealers Room

[JoadJoVae]

Hey everyone,
We just wanted to let you know that we are making a few changes to the prop check for NDK 2011 please make note of the following things:

1. ENTRY WILL BE BASED ON FIRST COME FIRST SERVE! There will be no pre-reg early entry.

2. There will be two lines to enter the dealers room, one for props and one for those without props. This is to allow people without props quicker entry to the room.

3. Backpacks, large purses, wings or any costume pieces/props that extend beyond your body are not allowed in the Dealers room and you will be denied entry if they are not removable.

4. We will not be taking any luggage. If you check out early and want to come into the Dealers room, you can leave your luggage with the front desk/concierge desk.

5. JUST AS A REMINDER! CAMERAS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE DEALERS ROOM! They will either need to be left in your room or checked. We will have a special section for cameras.

Thank you and we look forward to the coming year!

[Amadis]

I always pre-reg but never end up making it to the Dealers within the pre-reg early entry time slot XD so it doesn't make a difference to me, but can I ask why you've decided not to do it this year?

I imagine it's about streamlining the whole process with the new rules about props and such.

Also, I've learned that a lot of people don't check the forums, and that this particular section (Dealers/AA) is particularly off the beaten path. You might want to post this info in the Announcements section or sticky it in the NDK Discussion or something; everyone I'd told has been a little miffed, so I hope you don't have too many surprised and/or angry pre-reggers at con who really care about getting into Dealers FIRST ^^;

[The Ronin]

So I'm guessing that messenger bags would fall somewhere between backpacks and large purses? Just wanting some clarification since I was allowed in the Dealers room with mine last year.

[Alitain]

So I'm guessing that messenger bags would fall somewhere between backpacks and large purses? Just wanting some clarification since I was allowed in the Dealers room with mine last year.

I have the same question myself.  I got a messenger bag two years ago specifically so I can carry stuff around on the con floor, and it's helpful to carry purchases made in the dealers room.  But if not, no big I'll just leave it at the desk before going in.  Though, does a messenger bag/backpack and all count as a prop, and thus having to stand in the prop line?  Because I can only imagine that line taking forever to go through.

Well I can't say I'm happy about pre-reg not getting early roaming privileges, but that's the breaks.  Can I ask why though?  I mean I get the separate lines and all, but why no perks for pre-reg?  I mean I'm all pre-reged even though I'm so strapped for cash I probably wont be buying much of anything at the con this year, and I definitely don't prereg just for early dealer room privileges, but yeah just curious.

[Daft Punk]

aww...I loved the pre reg early entry :{

[Jinnie]

I always pre-reg but never end up making it to the Dealers within the pre-reg early entry time slot XD so it doesn't make a difference to me, but can I ask why you've decided not to do it this year?

I imagine it's about streamlining the whole process with the new rules about props and such.

Also, I've learned that a lot of people don't check the forums, and that this particular section (Dealers/AA) is particularly off the beaten path. You might want to post this info in the Announcements section or sticky it in the NDK Discussion or something; everyone I'd told has been a little miffed, so I hope you don't have too many surprised and/or angry pre-reggers at con who really care about getting into Dealers FIRST ^^;

We're eliminating early pre-reg entry mainly due to the cap. Because the majority of our attendees will be pre-regging from here on out, there really isn't any advantage at all anymore.

[Amadis]

ah that makes sense, I should have thought bigger than the prop-check ^^;

I'm honestly really interested in how the attendance cap is going to affect everything; it's fascinating to me from a logistics point of view, how this one decision is making changes to a lot of smaller details ^^

[Skrae]

As the resident prop check dude, I'll field the question regarding messenger bags.  The main issue is regarding space.  As long as your bag doesn't extend terribly far you should probably be good.

[The Ronin]

As the resident prop check dude, I'll field the question regarding messenger bags.  The main issue is regarding space.  As long as your bag doesn't extend terribly far you should probably be good.

Ok, well mine should be the same as the one you personally ok'd last year. I'll just make sure it's not too full before heading in.

[JoadJoVae]

Ok, well mine should be the same as the one you personally ok'd last year. I'll just make sure it's not too full before heading in.

Yup, thats fine. If we do stop you at the door we may just ask that you check it. We are getting slightly more strict with this because of the increase in number of attendees. We ask that everyone be patient with us while we learn what works as we grow.

[Alitain]

No, definitely understand that's cool JoadJoVae.  Mine is fairly flat and I usually keep it clutched close specifically so it doesn't get in the way.  Door staff were cool with it this year so I'll just make sure to check with the people this yeah.

[Skrae]

Also, please keep in mind, if I've cleared something at prop check myself one year (or even one day), I might not clear it again the next time.  One, I don't necessarily remember (cause it's con), and two, both inner DR and outer DR (aka prop check) are trying to adapt based on what works and what doesn't and what works better.

[Alitain]

Will keep in mind indeed.  Maybe I'll try and find someone Friday beforehand and just check so I know which line to get in from the get go.  Just would hate to sit in the wrong line for awhile only to be told to get in the other ya know, so I'll check.

[Daft Punk]

just curious, every year I get stopped for my helmet...it doesnt extend beyond me or anything. is it ok?

[Skrae]

Strange, I don't actually recall ever seeing your helmet on our table.  Anyway, we'll probably leave your helmet to your own discretion.  The main reason that we ask for helmets is for vision reasons.  Basically, we're just trying to avoid something getting broken or someone getting hurt on account of someone's vision being obscured by their helmet.

[Lunara]

Ha. Skrae, remember when we made that playlist and included a Daft Punk song especially for our robotic friend there?

I'm glad we're getting rid of the pre-reg line.
Everything else seems straight forward.

[Skrae]

Oh, yes, I remember that.  Good times.

[Daft Punk]

Well, once I was asked to take it off for vision reasons, I have a good amount of vision so that no problem I just wanted to make sure is all

[Kaito♥]

I would really like there to be more vocaloid stuff and more modern animes ^^, maybe make a limit of people allowed in at one time

[Skrae]

Unfortunately, there's really not much say we have with what Dealers sell, aside from saying what they can't sell (ie bootlegs/breaking street date).  As for limiting the amount of people inside Dealers Room at one time, it's a good idea on paper, but logistically, it would be a nightmare.  Between trying to enforce it (it'd be difficult to keep track of it with the size of the groups that go in and out at once) and the line it would create (just shutting down prop check for a few minutes last year created a rather sizable line), it just would be a bad scene.