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Con policy on human remains.
« on: November 17, 2009, 01:51:53 pm »
...I strive to ask the questions no one's ever even thought about asking, sorry.

I'd like to incorporate a (sealed) urn into my cosplay that yes, does include actual, human remains. It's not the sort of container that is easily breakable or opened (it's a sturdy black resin), with a separate container inside the resin block that contains the actual ashes; however I'm more than aware that having an urn on the con floor is both unusual and may be considered a health hazard by some standards.

What is the con policy on this, and, for that matter, if anyone knows, the hotel's?

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 02:07:42 pm »
my question is why bring an actual urn with human ashes in the first place is the container is that fragile in the first place?!

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 02:12:04 pm »
The container inside isn't fragile, it's a thick, sealed bag-like thingie.

And, it's kind of weird and sentimental, but I want to use the urn in my cosplay because my first NDK--NDK 2009--my mom passed away the first Friday, and I had to fly back home to Texas. So it's a closure/celebration thing, to include my mom in the celebrations this year. (Plus, among the costume ideas, she'd be Jenova, or the Philospher's Stone, and I think the creativity of that would tickle her if she were alive. We're a weird family.)

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 03:32:21 pm »
Ohhh... Your first post made me think you were bonkers (^_^;), but that's actually really cool. 
I can respect that.

I understand your concern... I'll be watching for what the official word is on this.

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 03:56:34 pm »
Ahaha, well, I am still pretty insane, but this particular bit of weirdness has a rational explanation. I've been called tacky, tasteless, and disrespectful for having the idea but it's nothing my mom would have ever found disrespectful; she'd be happy she's being included and used, and close to my heart, instead of gathering dust.

I'm eagerly awaiting official word!

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 02:24:05 am »
My condolences for the loss of your mother. I lost my mother two and a half years ago and it was the most difficult thing I ever went through, so I understand what you're going through and I certainly respect your request.

I spoke with our executive director about this, though, and we're in agreement: unfortunately, we don't think it would be appropriate for someone to be carrying human remains on the con floor. We think that it would make a lot of people uncomfortable to know that someone was carrying them around. (I, for one, get the heebie jeebies around human remains--even those of my own loved ones.)

We have some ancillary concerns about the potential for damage to the urn; the potential of the ashes being scattered, necessitating extraordinary cleanup measures; the potential for loss of the urn; etc. These may be extremely unlikely, but they're still something we need to take into consideration. And unfortunately any one of these issues would make us leery of saying yes.

But mostly, it came down to how we thought people would feel about being around human remains at the convention. Though for you this is a way to share something special with your departed mother, it's unlikely that everyone would feel the way you do about it.

Though we would ask that you not bring your mother's ashes on the convention floor, we wouldn't have an issue if you brought them to the convention and left them in your hotel room. While this may not be sharing the convention with your mother in the way you had hoped, I hope it would still allow you to share it with her in a meaningful way.

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 06:48:04 am »
Thank you! I figured the list of concerns ran high, and I certainly understand them. The last thing I'd like to do is make anyone uncomfortable at the convention, and I could see how the idea of human remains could give at least a few people the creepy crawlies. Unfortunately, because I have a long flight from Texas to Colorado, I likely won't bring the urn if it's not allowed on the con floor, because the risks of issues there outweighs the benefits of the con at that rate, but oh well. I can find another way to share the event that doesn't involve actually having here there....maybe a memorial costume or something. C:

Thank you sincerely for the consideration, even if it wasn't the response I had hoped for. And hey, now there's an official answer, in the extremely unlikely event this question is ever raised again, right?

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 12:29:33 pm »
And hey, now there's an official answer, in the extremely unlikely event this question is ever raised again, right?

Oh, I'm not so sure that because we answered the question is the reason it won't be asked again... I'm willing to bet this is a first in anime con history. ;)
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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 05:05:07 pm »
now that you mention it hey greg i gotta question........oh im just kidding :P


im gald you got your answer yo instead of just doing it and getting very disappointed

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 07:00:49 pm »
Hey that would've been cool and sentimental but I agree on Greg on this one. It definetly would suck if someone stole your urn or her remains be scattered all over the place. My condolences on your loss. It always sucks to lose someone you love.

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Re: Con policy on human remains.
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 07:09:15 pm »
Thanks to everyone for your input.  Since this question has been answered thoroughly, I'm going to lock this. 

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